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Asked Questions to view Joyce's response:
How possible is it, realistically, to
avert school violence tragedies through intervention?
It happens more than we are
aware of. There have always been those kinds of gangs and
bullies in schools, but I don't believe it was always as
prevalent as it seems to be right now. It's a continuum that
begins with violent language on one end and ends with killing
on the other end, and to that extent I suppose you could say
there's violence in every school. In my experience as a
trainer, I hear teachers and counselors say "that's just how
kids are and you can't do anything about it." I don't agree
with that. I don't agree that we have to tolerate violent
language, threats, bullying.

The first intervention is to
talk to the kid. But so much of that has been done in a kind
of authoritarian fashion, and educators have not been trained
in what is really a psychological intervention. You want to
talk to the kid, just get some information about what might be
going on with him, who they might trust enough to confide in.
It goes in steps -- you do an informal assessment, where this
and that are some of the things you should look for. You just
need to be finding out what is going on with this child in a
way that says we are watching, we care about you, we want
everything to be alright. If they give you other, more
dangerous signs and signals, violent or suicidal ones, then
you need to make an immediate referral and get the parents in
there. I think schools are going to have to come to the point
where they have to suspend some of these children until there
can be a thorough evaluation.

One of the circumstances is
when the parents themselves are pretty obviously disturbed and
have mental health issues of their own. One of the most
familiar signs of a potentially violent child is a violent
parent. Some of the kids I have consulted with will tell you
about beatings going on in the home. It can be pretty tricky
when the parents are either in denial or extremely defensive
about it. Another thing, even the most well-meaning parents
are the ones who really just cannot believe that their child
would say or do anything like that and really mean it. It's so
unimaginable or terrifying to them that they are just in
denial, and that's very dangerous. Depression in children,
especially very fragile ones, can often play itself out in
some kind of violence.

Oh, yes. You see it in the
profiles of most of kids that did these shootings -- they're
not known troublemakers, most of them. At Columbine, although
they had been in trouble with the law, they were not
troublemakers in the classroom, they got good grades, handed
in their work. That's the thing that's most troublesome, that
if these boys had been identified earlier could have played
out very differently. If you have an obvious troublemaker,
then he is in the spotlight; you are watching them.
Interventions happen and they work, but when you have this kid
who's not acting out in all those typical ways, then he
doesn't get the intervention. Teachers just need more
information and more training in what to look for.

You'd think they'd be doing
everything they could to see that every school is safe, that
they're learning about intervention, that every school and
every teacher are as trained in crisis management, like
they're doing in Muscogee County. But it's not happening, and
that's just unimaginable to me. But that's how powerful denial
is -- people just don't believe it's going to happen here,
wherever "here" is. It's not because we don't care, but
because we don't believe.
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